I've cued it to AUTOPLAY @11:35, beyond most of the
tedious introductions; but even then, the better part of the debate begins at the
42:00 minute mark.
God creates someone knowing they'll go to hell? 07:26 Host: "God wills all to be saved. ... God gives every human being sufficient grace for them to make it to heaven." Dobbie replies: Well, predestination is also a motif in the New Testament.